Fisher, ERNEST (Ernie)

Birth Name Fisher, ERNEST (Ernie)
Gender male

Narrative

Ernest was always called Ernie, and one of his brothers school entries was recorded as Willie. So rather than using their given names of Charles, Ernest and William, they were known as Charlie, Ernie and Willie. They had a sister, called Ethel. Ernie's parents were both born in Ancoats and they married and lived there until they moved to Clayton, when they were both about 30. Charlie and Ethel were born in Ancoats, Ernie and Willie were born in Clayton. When Ernie was 5, the family moved from Clayton to Miles Platting, where Ernie would live for the rest of his life.
Ernie went to Holland Street school when he was 5, and he left aged 14. Holland Street was the oldest primary school in Manchester.
When he was 16 Ernie started work as a boiler maker, and he joined the United Society Of Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders, a Trade union. He was a union member until he was 34, and a boiler maker all his life.
In 1921, aged 19, Ernie was working at R and J Dempster in Chapter Street Miles Platting. Also working there was William Horrocks (his future father in law). R and J Dempster were formed in 1884 and were in existence until 2016.
Ernie was 26 when he married Clara Horrocks. Their son Ronald was born 6 months later. Their only other child was Raymond, born 17 years later. Ronald and Raymond's names were abbreviated to Ron and Ray, just like Ernie and his brothers had been.
In 1949, aged 20, Ron, signed up for National Service, which started on 1 January 1949. He served in the Royal Navy for 18 months. visiting many places. Ron married Vera Rowland in 1952.
In 1960, nephew James (Jim) Bowker moved in, aged 22, following the death of his mother. Jim was 8 years older than their son Ray, and 9 years younger than their married son Ron. Ron and Jim were life long friends.
Ernie's local pub was the Gibralter on Grimshaw Lane, which he went to with his son Ron and his nephew Jim Bowker.

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth Registered BET JAN AND MAR 1902 Newton, Lancashire, England 8d 358 1a 2a 3a
Birth 2 Jan 1902 Clayton, Lancashire, England   4a 5a
Baptism 22 Jan 1902 St Cross, Clayton, Lancashire, England   6a 7a
Residence 22 Jan 1902 Garner Street 18, Clayton, Lancashire, England   6b
Residence 9 Jan 1905 Robert Street 120, Newton Heath, Lancashire, England   8a
Residence 13 Mar 1907 Heather Street 18, Clayton, Lancashire, England   6c
Residence 17 Jun 1907 Joynson Street 70, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   8b
Education 1908 Holland Street School, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England (infants) 8c
Education 17 Aug 1908 Holland Street School, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Admission - aged 5 8d
Residence 17 Aug 1908 Joynson Street 70, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   8e
Residence 2 Apr 1911 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Age: 9; Relation to Head of House: Son 9a
Residence 19 Aug 1913 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   8f
Education 24 Dec 1915 Holland Street School, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Date of Leaving - aged 14 8g
Employment 1918 Manchester, Lancashire, England United Society Of Boilermakers and Iron Shipbuilders 10a
Occupation 1918   Boiler Maker 10b
Residence 1 Sep 1919 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   8h
Census 19 Jun 1921 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Age: 19:5 11a
Occupation 19 Jun 1921 Chapter Street, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Boiler Plate Maker 11b
Employment 19 Jun 1921 Chapter Street, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England R and J Dempster, Gas Plant Engineers 11c
Residence 16 Sep 1922 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   12a
Occupation 18 Aug 1928   Boiler Maker 12b 13a
Residence 18 Aug 1928 Padstow Street 10, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   12c 13b
Occupation 26 Sep 1939   Boiler Plater 4b
Residence 26 Sep 1939 Sun Street 28, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   4c
Occupation 8 Mar 1952   Boiler Maker 14a
Residence 8 Mar 1952 Sun Street 28, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   14b
Residence 1970 Lightbowne Road, Moston, Lancashire, England    
Residence 1973 Surbiton Road 35, Newton Heath, Lancashire, England    
Death about Nov 1976 Manchester, Lancashire, England Age: 74 5b

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Fisher, CHARLES16 Feb 1871about Nov 1947
Mother Brammall, ANN JANE12 Nov 1872May 1949
    Brother     Fisher, Charles 12 Feb 1895
    Sister     Fisher, Ethel 20 Aug 1897
         Fisher, ERNEST (Ernie) 2 Jan 1902 about Nov 1976
    Brother     Fisher, William 20 Feb 1907

Families

Family of Fisher, ERNEST (Ernie) and Horrocks, CLARA
Married Wife Horrocks, CLARA ( * 5 Sep 1905 + about Jan 1989 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 18 Aug 1928 St Luke, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England   12d 15a 13c

Source References

  1. England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index (1837-1983)
  2. GRO Online Index (births) 1837-1918
      • Source text:

        FISHER, ERNEST BRAMMALL
        GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 358

  3. Lancashire Birth Index (1837-2007)
      • Source text:

        FISHER Ernest 1902 Newton Archives+, Manchester Central Library NEW/181/67

  4. 1939 England and Wales Register
      • Page: Reference: RG 101/4526H
      • Source text:

        Name: Ernest Fisher
        Gender: Male
        Marital Status: Married
        Birth Date: 2 Jan 1902
        Residence Year: 1939
        Address: 28
        Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
        Occupation: Builder Plater
        Schedule Number: 125
        Sub Schedule Number: 1
        Enumeration District: NKNG
        Registration district: 466-4
        Inferred Spouse: Clara Fisher
        Inferred Children: Ronald Fisher
        Household Members:
        Name
        Ernest Fisher
        Clara Fisher
        Ronald Fisher

      • Page: Reference: RG 101/4526H
      • Source text:

        Name: Ernest Fisher
        Gender: Male
        Marital Status: Married
        Birth Date: 2 Jan 1902
        Residence Year: 1939
        Address: 28
        Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
        Occupation: Builder Plater
        Schedule Number: 125
        Sub Schedule Number: 1
        Enumeration District: NKNG
        Registration district: 466-4
        Inferred Spouse: Clara Fisher
        Inferred Children: Ronald Fisher
        Household Members:
        Name
        Ernest Fisher
        Clara Fisher
        Ronald Fisher

      • Page: Reference: RG 101/4526H
      • Source text:

        Name: Ernest Fisher
        Gender: Male
        Marital Status: Married
        Birth Date: 2 Jan 1902
        Residence Year: 1939
        Address: 28
        Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
        Occupation: Builder Plater
        Schedule Number: 125
        Sub Schedule Number: 1
        Enumeration District: NKNG
        Registration district: 466-4
        Inferred Spouse: Clara Fisher
        Inferred Children: Ronald Fisher
        Household Members:
        Name
        Ernest Fisher
        Clara Fisher
        Ronald Fisher

  5. England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
      • Source text:

        Record for Ernest Fisher

      • Source text:

        Record for Ernest Fisher

  6. Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
      • Source text:

        Name Ernest Fisher
        Baptism Date 22 Jan 1902
        Baptism Place Clayton, St Cross, Lancashire, England
        Parish as it Appears Clayton, St Cross
        Search Photos Clayton, St Cross, Lancashire, England
        Father Charles Fisher
        Mother Ann Jane Fisher

      • Source text:

        Name Ernest Fisher
        Baptism Date 22 Jan 1902
        Baptism Place Clayton, St Cross, Lancashire, England
        Parish as it Appears Clayton, St Cross
        Search Photos Clayton, St Cross, Lancashire, England
        Father Charles Fisher
        Mother Ann Jane Fisher

      • Source text:

        Name: William Fisher
        Baptism Date: 13 Mar 1907
        Baptism Place: Clayton, St Cross, Lancashire, England
        Parish as it Appears: Clayton, St Cross
        Search Photos: Search for 'Clayton, St Cross' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
        Father: Charles Fisher
        Mother: Ann Jane Fisher
        Reference Number: GB127.M458/1/1/3

  7. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
  8. National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
      • Source text:

        First name(s) Chas
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1895
        Birth date 12 Feb 1895
        Age -
        Admission year 1896
        School Name Hague Street Primary School, Newton Heath
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Chas
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Hague St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register Junior
        Start year 1896
        End year 1914
        Film M 66 / 122
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Charles
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1895
        Birth date 12 Feb 1895
        Age -
        Admission year 1898
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1898
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1902
        Birth date 02 Jan 1902
        Age -
        Admission year 1898
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1898
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1902
        Birth date 02 Jan 1902
        Age -
        Admission year 1898
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1898
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1902
        Birth date 02 Jan 1902
        Age -
        Admission year 1898
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1898
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Willie
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1907
        Birth date 20 Feb 1907
        Age -
        Admission year 1913
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1913
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio 1
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1902
        Birth date 02 Jan 1902
        Age -
        Admission year 1898
        School Name Holland Street Schools, Miles Platting
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Mixed
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Holland St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register
        Start year 1898
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 36
        Folio -
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

      • Source text:

        First name(s) William
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year 1907
        Birth date 20 Feb 1907
        Age -
        Admission year 1913
        School Name Birley Street School, Beswick
        Town Manchester
        County Lancashire
        Residence -
        Parent or guardian's name Charles
        Admission date -
        Department Central
        Remarks -
        Date left school -
        Previous school -
        Locality of record Manchester Birley St School
        Book type Admissions
        Title of records Admission Register Boys
        Start year 1913
        End year 1913
        Film M 66 / 11
        Folio 32
        Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Schools & Education
        Collections from England, Great Britain

  9. 1911 Census of England, Wales, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man
  10. Britain, Trade Union Membership Registers
      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year -
        Admission year 1918
        Age 16
        Trade Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
        Union name United Society Of Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
        Union branch Manchester 3
        Union branch as transcribed Manchester 3
        County Lancashire
        Country England
        Archive
        Modern Records Centre
        Archive reference MSS.192/BM/2/2/15
        Title Registration Book
        Dates 1915-1917; 1916-1919
        Information contained Members 89781-96363; apprentice members 96364A-99580A
        No of volumes 1
        Notes
        Also covers apprentices as later full members (with the same numbers without the 'A' suffix)
        Record set Britain, Trade Union Membership Registers
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Guild & Trade Associations
        Collections from Great Britain, England

      • Source text:

        First name(s) Ernest
        Last name Fisher
        Birth year -
        Admission year 1918
        Age 16
        Trade Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
        Union name United Society Of Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
        Union branch Manchester 3
        Union branch as transcribed Manchester 3
        County Lancashire
        Country England
        Archive
        Modern Records Centre
        Archive reference MSS.192/BM/2/2/15
        Title Registration Book
        Dates 1915-1917; 1916-1919
        Information contained Members 89781-96363; apprentice members 96364A-99580A
        No of volumes 1
        Notes
        Also covers apprentices as later full members (with the same numbers without the 'A' suffix)
        Record set Britain, Trade Union Membership Registers
        Category Education & work
        Subcategory Guild & Trade Associations
        Collections from Great Britain, England

  11. 1921 Census
      • Page: 467-5-03 Padstow Street 10
      • Source text:

        Charles Fisher
        Ann Jane Fisher
        Ethel Fisher
        Ernest Fisher
        William Fisher

      • Page: 467-5-03 Padstow Street 10
      • Source text:

        Charles Fisher
        Ann Jane Fisher
        Ethel Fisher
        Ernest Fisher
        William Fisher

      • Page: 467-5-03 Padstow Street 10
      • Source text:

        Charles Fisher
        Ann Jane Fisher
        Ethel Fisher
        Ernest Fisher
        William Fisher

  12. Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
      • Source text:

        Name: Ethel Fisher
        Gender: Female
        Marriage Age: 25
        Event Type: Marriage
        Birth Year: abt 1897
        Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1922
        Marriage Place: Manchester, St Philip, Manchester, England
        Parish as it Appears: Manchester
        Search Photos: Search for 'Manchester, St Philip' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
        Father: Charles Fisher
        Spouse: Fred Shepherd
        Reference Number: M299/3/2/10
        Archive Roll: 859

      • Citation:

        http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=2962&h=7553674&indiv=try

  13. Certified copy of an Entry of Marriage
      • Page: 1928 [marriage certificate] Ernest Fisher and Clara Horrocks
      • Source text:

        Ernest (signed). Clara (signed). Witnesses Frederick Horrocks (signed) and Carrie Farrell (signed).

      • Page: 1928 [marriage certificate] Ernest Fisher and Clara Horrocks
      • Source text:

        Ernest (signed). Clara (signed). Witnesses Frederick Horrocks (signed) and Carrie Farrell (signed).

      • Page: 1928 [marriage certificate] Ernest Fisher and Clara Horrocks
      • Source text:

        Ernest (signed). Clara (signed). Witnesses Frederick Horrocks (signed) and Carrie Farrell (signed).

  14. Certified Entry of Marriage (original)
      • Page: 1952 [marriage certificate] Ronald Fisher and Vera Rowland
      • Page: 1952 [marriage certificate] Ronald Fisher and Vera Rowland
  15. England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
      • Source text:

        Record for Ernest Fisher